Comments on: The Stupak Dilemma http://www.cosmopolitanconservative.com/2009/11/08/the-stupak-dilemma/ Tue, 31 Aug 2010 02:53:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: GoldnI http://www.cosmopolitanconservative.com/2009/11/08/the-stupak-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-820 GoldnI Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:17:32 +0000 http://www.cosmopolitanconservative.com/?p=1253#comment-820 Ok thanks, that makes more sense. Ok thanks, that makes more sense.

]]> By: Appalachian Abroad » There Are No Stupak Questions http://www.cosmopolitanconservative.com/2009/11/08/the-stupak-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-819 Appalachian Abroad » There Are No Stupak Questions Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:55:49 +0000 http://www.cosmopolitanconservative.com/?p=1253#comment-819 [...] pal Adrienne Royer ponders the responsibility of pro-life forces in passing Obamacare, concluding: It was the fault of the Republican party and [...] [...] pal Adrienne Royer ponders the responsibility of pro-life forces in passing Obamacare, concluding: It was the fault of the Republican party and [...]

]]> By: adrienne http://www.cosmopolitanconservative.com/2009/11/08/the-stupak-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-818 adrienne Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:47:28 +0000 http://www.cosmopolitanconservative.com/?p=1253#comment-818 Not necessarily. The Stupak Amendment was a last minute deal that Pelosi made to ensure that pro-life Ds would stick to the party line. If National Right to Life had not issued the statement, many Republicans would have voted "present." The logic was that if Stupak failed, more pro-life Blue Dogs would have to vote against the entire bill. Here's the NRLC statement: "If you do not wish to go on record in support of creating major new federal programs that will both fund abortions directly and subsidize private abortion coverage, please vote for the Stupak-Pitts Amendment. NRLC will regard a “present” vote as equivalent to a negative vote on the Stupak-Pitts Amendment." This put pro-life members between the proverbial rock and a hard place. If Stupak had not passed or was not ever created, I still doubt that enough Democrats would have voted to kill the bill. Not necessarily. The Stupak Amendment was a last minute deal that Pelosi made to ensure that pro-life Ds would stick to the party line. If National Right to Life had not issued the statement, many Republicans would have voted “present.” The logic was that if Stupak failed, more pro-life Blue Dogs would have to vote against the entire bill.

Here’s the NRLC statement:

“If you do not wish to go on record in support of creating major new federal programs that will both fund abortions directly and subsidize private abortion coverage, please vote for the Stupak-Pitts Amendment. NRLC will regard a “present” vote as equivalent to a negative vote on the Stupak-Pitts Amendment.”

This put pro-life members between the proverbial rock and a hard place. If Stupak had not passed or was not ever created, I still doubt that enough Democrats would have voted to kill the bill.

]]> By: GoldnI http://www.cosmopolitanconservative.com/2009/11/08/the-stupak-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-817 GoldnI Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:56:17 +0000 http://www.cosmopolitanconservative.com/?p=1253#comment-817 I'm confused about something, and I asked this at Post Politics but thought it'd be better to ask directly. Were they scoring for just the vote on the amendment, or on the entire bill with the amendment attached? If it were the former, wouldn't most Republicans have voted for the amendment anyway? I'm just curious. I’m confused about something, and I asked this at Post Politics but thought it’d be better to ask directly. Were they scoring for just the vote on the amendment, or on the entire bill with the amendment attached? If it were the former, wouldn’t most Republicans have voted for the amendment anyway? I’m just curious.

]]> By: How Freakin’ Stupak Was That? : Post Politics: Political News and Views in Tennessee http://www.cosmopolitanconservative.com/2009/11/08/the-stupak-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-816 How Freakin’ Stupak Was That? : Post Politics: Political News and Views in Tennessee Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:57:37 +0000 http://www.cosmopolitanconservative.com/?p=1253#comment-816 [...] Conservative » The Stupak DilemmaPosted 8 hours [...] [...] Conservative » The Stupak DilemmaPosted 8 hours [...]

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