Comments on: Why are Feminists Targeting Twilight? http://www.cosmopolitanconservative.com/2009/11/26/why-are-feminists-targeting-twilight/ Tue, 31 Aug 2010 02:53:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Carma http://www.cosmopolitanconservative.com/2009/11/26/why-are-feminists-targeting-twilight/comment-page-1/#comment-863 Carma Tue, 13 Jul 2010 04:22:10 +0000 http://www.cosmopolitanconservative.com/?p=1357#comment-863 These are some excellent points! I enjoyed Twilight very much (the books, not the hideous movies) because it has an engaging story, but it's just a romance - nothing too original and not great literature ... and certainly nothing to get so worked up over! I've been astonished at the backlash against Bella too: she likes to cook and that makes her antifeminist ... I guess enjoying cooking for her family is not a choice a feminist is allowed to make. And feminists aren't allowed to be shy or introverted either, because Bella should enjoy being the center of attention in a new school (and that is a very real phenomenon, by the way: any reasonably attractive girl added to a small-town high school where everyone has known each other since kindergarten is automatically a Very Big Deal to all the guys). And how terrible to choose to keep her baby because she knows there is a very reasonable expectation that they will both stay safe and healthy (which they do) and she will never have the opportunity to have another child. Funny, all the choices feminists aren't allowed to make! These are some excellent points! I enjoyed Twilight very much (the books, not the hideous movies) because it has an engaging story, but it’s just a romance – nothing too original and not great literature … and certainly nothing to get so worked up over! I’ve been astonished at the backlash against Bella too: she likes to cook and that makes her antifeminist … I guess enjoying cooking for her family is not a choice a feminist is allowed to make. And feminists aren’t allowed to be shy or introverted either, because Bella should enjoy being the center of attention in a new school (and that is a very real phenomenon, by the way: any reasonably attractive girl added to a small-town high school where everyone has known each other since kindergarten is automatically a Very Big Deal to all the guys). And how terrible to choose to keep her baby because she knows there is a very reasonable expectation that they will both stay safe and healthy (which they do) and she will never have the opportunity to have another child. Funny, all the choices feminists aren’t allowed to make!

]]> By: Amanda http://www.cosmopolitanconservative.com/2009/11/26/why-are-feminists-targeting-twilight/comment-page-1/#comment-862 Amanda Tue, 04 May 2010 08:18:42 +0000 http://www.cosmopolitanconservative.com/?p=1357#comment-862 The fact that you fail when making your core comparisons between heroines basically undermines the point of this entire article. 1. Your first premise is that women can't be virgins to be "empowered?" Feminists don't argue that. Feminists support a woman's individual choice to have sex or not have sex, without the judgement of society. 2. Well, she is older, okay, but, uh, Feminists don't consider "older" a Feminist characteristic. 3. Sookie's status as an outcast and Bella's status as a normal high school girl don't have anything to do with superiority or Feminism. 4. Sookie in fact does better herself, with prodigious reading on her own. She had difficulty in school because her "disability" (her telepathy) prevented her from concentrating. Further, if you're using this to demonstrate that Bella is "superior" to Sookie, um, Bella expressed zero interest in attending college at all. There's a lot of things wrong with this point, in fact. Not in the least the fact that you seem to equate working as a barmaid with something shameful and low class. 5. Definitely not true. She gets involved in the supernatural world the instant she sees Bill walk into her bar for the first time. Before her grandmother is murdered, she's already visited the vampire bar in Shreveport. She goes through a period in book 4 when she wants nothing to do with the supernatural world, because she's sick of getting beat up, but that's more of a Feminist statement than anything. Ultimately, her compassion for her friends and family ropes her back in. Finally, how about I quote YOU for my final point? "If the feminists could actually get the facts of the book straight, it would be good for them to look at the larger world of vampire fiction. Going after Meyers only reveals their latest hypocrisy." Since you seem to know so much about getting the facts straight on 'Twilight,' next time it might help to *also* get the facts of the novels to which you are comparing the series. The fact that you fail when making your core comparisons between heroines basically undermines the point of this entire article.
1. Your first premise is that women can’t be virgins to be “empowered?” Feminists don’t argue that. Feminists support a woman’s individual choice to have sex or not have sex, without the judgement of society.
2. Well, she is older, okay, but, uh, Feminists don’t consider “older” a Feminist characteristic.
3. Sookie’s status as an outcast and Bella’s status as a normal high school girl don’t have anything to do with superiority or Feminism.
4. Sookie in fact does better herself, with prodigious reading on her own. She had difficulty in school because her “disability” (her telepathy) prevented her from concentrating. Further, if you’re using this to demonstrate that Bella is “superior” to Sookie, um, Bella expressed zero interest in attending college at all. There’s a lot of things wrong with this point, in fact. Not in the least the fact that you seem to equate working as a barmaid with something shameful and low class.
5. Definitely not true. She gets involved in the supernatural world the instant she sees Bill walk into her bar for the first time. Before her grandmother is murdered, she’s already visited the vampire bar in Shreveport. She goes through a period in book 4 when she wants nothing to do with the supernatural world, because she’s sick of getting beat up, but that’s more of a Feminist statement than anything. Ultimately, her compassion for her friends and family ropes her back in.

Finally, how about I quote YOU for my final point? “If the feminists could actually get the facts of the book straight, it would be good for them to look at the larger world of vampire fiction. Going after Meyers only reveals their latest hypocrisy.”

Since you seem to know so much about getting the facts straight on ‘Twilight,’ next time it might help to *also* get the facts of the novels to which you are comparing the series.

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]]> By: Ana http://www.cosmopolitanconservative.com/2009/11/26/why-are-feminists-targeting-twilight/comment-page-1/#comment-860 Ana Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:59:01 +0000 http://www.cosmopolitanconservative.com/?p=1357#comment-860 Great article totally agree. Really I watched Buffy, Angel, I loved Xena and Agent Scully and I also like Bella as well, they keep taking everything out of context to proof a point, and trying to censor female fantasies, like we are so weak minded that a set of books was all needed to get us back on the kitchen (they are really confident on their ideas),that irks me because they make it look like the feminist movement fought to stop women being oppressed by men so they can be oppressed by other women...I think I'm going to call myself humanist and be done with it. Great article totally agree. Really I watched Buffy, Angel, I loved Xena and Agent Scully and I also like Bella as well, they keep taking everything out of context to proof a point, and trying to censor female fantasies, like we are so weak minded that a set of books was all needed to get us back on the kitchen (they are really confident on their ideas),that irks me because they make it look like the feminist movement fought to stop women being oppressed by men so they can be oppressed by other women…I think I’m going to call myself humanist and be done with it.

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